Arma 2

Vikingod · Jun 30, 2009, 01:42 PM

What does everyone think about this one? It's been out in Europe for a while I believe, and the demo is available.

I tried the demo, and really liked a lot about the game, but ultimately, the AI bugs really held it back. I understand a few patches have been released, and I'm wondering if they've improved these issues.

So, anyone around here playing it?

niceguyrichy · Jun 30, 2009, 02:14 PM

oh, whats wrong with the AI then ??
this was one I was gonna try after I finish burnout.
is it really really buggy? cos I just don't have the patience for these things

(course I'm not sure my vid card will handle it too well anyway, but..)

BlueMak · Jun 30, 2009, 02:30 PM

I only run the benchmark (same result for 1680x1050 and 1920x1200, bad result of mid thirties) and the game looks...not good. I am talking only about the graphics. It feels just...not a 2009 or 2008 or 2007 game.
I haven't tried to actually play the demo yet.

Vikingod · Jun 30, 2009, 02:44 PM

The AI in the demo was a buzzkill. There were all sorts of quirky bugs, such as guys running into walls and getting stuck, and watching them drive vehicles was pretty funny. Your team members are generally capable, if they aren't running into gun fire for no apparent reason. I think some of this was fixed in patches though.

Other than that, the game seems fun. The world they created is amazing too.

OmegaRED · Jul 1, 2009, 12:35 AM

I had issues running the demo then EVGA put out an SLI update which included Arma2 and the game became perfectly smooth at max details. The update works for any brand of nvidia cards. The graphics and sound were excellent from what I saw.

To me, there's no doubt this is a game that you might as well skip for the first six months if you truly want to enjoy it, the patches are coming quickly and eventually it will be fixed enough so that it can be judged on the merits of gameplay rather than bugs.

As for the Arma2 itself, it's the first game since 2000 era Delta Force to bring me out of the arcade style of military shooters and into the world of confusing key assignments and weapon loadouts. I spent the first few games trying to find the enemies since my squad kept killing everything and the rest of the time was either going lone wolf or rolling around in the grass bleeding to death while my AI teammates ran around oblivious to my peril.

Vikingod · Jul 1, 2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

As for the Arma2 itself, it's the first game since 2000 era Delta Force to bring me out of the arcade style of military shooters and into the world of confusing key assignments and weapon loadouts. I spent the first few games trying to find the enemies since my squad kept killing everything and the rest of the time was either going lone wolf or rolling around in the grass bleeding to death while my AI teammates ran around oblivious to my peril.

Well said. Oddly enough though, the moments of joy I had with the demo were something to remember. Perhaps waiting for the bugs to be fixed is the way to approach this one.

Removing the AI by playing multiplayer may be an option. I've not gotten into that yet.

Anyone else?

Mac Daddy · Jul 1, 2009, 01:03 AM

I haven't checked it out yet Bro but following the thread along.

Bolletje · Jul 1, 2009, 07:25 AM

At first, the game looked very cool; the huge playground you get, many vehicles and weapons. But I don't like it that much. I still have some bugs and the controls aren't my type (although you can customize them).

They even capped my downloading speed @ 200 kB/s while downloading the demo

5 hours of my life ruined :')

I think this game will get very cheap in a small amount of time, like ARMA (1). Maybe then I will give it a try once more.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Jul 8, 2009, 11:25 AM

The Ad for it looks and sounds vewry good. Ultimate freedom of actions and stuff.

Callandor · Jul 8, 2009, 11:44 AM

hey i remember someone saying that i was from no where haha

OmegaRED · Jul 9, 2009, 01:55 PM

I'm gonna give the full game a bit of playing this weekend and hopefully it gets better with the patches available.

pigdog · Jul 9, 2009, 02:40 PM

Please update this thread as I'm particularly interested in this game.

The makers (BIS) are responsible for an advanced battlespace simulator that is used by the Australian Army (as well as the US Marines, amongst others).

It is basically a grown-up version of Op Flashpoint and it's called VBS1 (Virtual Battle Space, if I recall), although we are now using VBS2.

Both VBS1 & 2 are without a doubt the most realistic battlefield simulators around. Full stop. For squad based scenarios it about as close as any sim or game is ever going to get. Well, for now anyway.

To say that we have found it quite useful before deploying to the MEAO would be a fair statement.

Anyway, I'm discharging from the Army after 15 years of infantry and 11 deployments, and if this games rates then it would be just like I'd never left work. But without the flies, the IED's, the cold, the bloody heat etc. Not to mention getting to actually see my son.

But if it needs time/patches then I'll wait.

cheers
the dog

Vikingod · Jul 13, 2009, 05:34 PM

I'm having trouble getting used to the controls and displays. SOme of the decisions they made are directly in the face of the standard FPS scheme, and why they did so makes very little sense to me as it feels cumbersome and unnatural, not to mention unnecessarily complex. It takes the joy out of controlling a squad.

Ithryl · Jul 21, 2009, 07:27 AM

The ai issues are hopefully gonna get fixed in few patches. What buggers me the most is the engine, it's just too demanding for what it offers.

OmegaRED · Jul 21, 2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithryl

The ai issues are hopefully gonna get fixed in few patches. What buggers me the most is the engine, it's just too demanding for what it offers.

Considering that the game renders massive land areas as well as all sorts of aerial and ground weapons/enemies I'd say it runs as expected on the highest settings; especially if Arma2 were bug free it would be hard to complain about the demanding specs.

Jun 30, 2009, 01:42 PM	#1
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,183 Rep Power: 99	Arma 2 What does everyone think about this one? It's been out in Europe for a while I believe, and the demo is available. I tried the demo, and really liked a lot about the game, but ultimately, the AI bugs really held it back. I understand a few patches have been released, and I'm wondering if they've improved these issues. So, anyone around here playing it? __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Jun 30, 2009, 02:30 PM	#3
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 10,548 Rep Power: 216	Re: Arma 2 I only run the benchmark (same result for 1680x1050 and 1920x1200, bad result of mid thirties) and the game looks...not good. I am talking only about the graphics. It feels just...not a 2009 or 2008 or 2007 game. I haven't tried to actually play the demo yet. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 30, 2009, 02:44 PM	#4
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,183 Rep Power: 99	Re: Arma 2 The AI in the demo was a buzzkill. There were all sorts of quirky bugs, such as guys running into walls and getting stuck, and watching them drive vehicles was pretty funny. Your team members are generally capable, if they aren't running into gun fire for no apparent reason. I think some of this was fixed in patches though. Other than that, the game seems fun. The world they created is amazing too. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Jul 1, 2009, 12:35 AM	#5
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,219 Rep Power: 140	Re: Arma 2 I had issues running the demo then EVGA put out an SLI update which included Arma2 and the game became perfectly smooth at max details. The update works for any brand of nvidia cards. The graphics and sound were excellent from what I saw. To me, there's no doubt this is a game that you might as well skip for the first six months if you truly want to enjoy it, the patches are coming quickly and eventually it will be fixed enough so that it can be judged on the merits of gameplay rather than bugs. As for the Arma2 itself, it's the first game since 2000 era Delta Force to bring me out of the arcade style of military shooters and into the world of confusing key assignments and weapon loadouts. I spent the first few games trying to find the enemies since my squad kept killing everything and the rest of the time was either going lone wolf or rolling around in the grass bleeding to death while my AI teammates ran around oblivious to my peril. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jul 1, 2009, 01:03 AM	#7
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 68	Re: Arma 2 I haven't checked it out yet Bro but following the thread along. __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jul 1, 2009, 07:25 AM	#8
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,204 Rep Power: 65	Re: Arma 2 At first, the game looked very cool; the huge playground you get, many vehicles and weapons. But I don't like it that much. I still have some bugs and the controls aren't my type (although you can customize them). They even capped my downloading speed @ 200 kB/s while downloading the demo 5 hours of my life ruined :') I think this game will get very cheap in a small amount of time, like ARMA (1). Maybe then I will give it a try once more.

Jul 8, 2009, 11:25 AM	#9
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: Arma 2 The Ad for it looks and sounds vewry good. Ultimate freedom of actions and stuff.

Jul 8, 2009, 11:44 AM	#10
Callandor HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dissimulated Posts: 4,939 Rep Power: 134	Re: Arma 2 hey i remember someone saying that i was from no where haha __________________ Seek happiness, the rest will come to you

Jul 9, 2009, 01:55 PM	#11
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,219 Rep Power: 140	Re: Arma 2 I'm gonna give the full game a bit of playing this weekend and hopefully it gets better with the patches available. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jul 9, 2009, 02:40 PM	#12
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 466 Rep Power: 46	Re: Arma 2 Please update this thread as I'm particularly interested in this game. The makers (BIS) are responsible for an advanced battlespace simulator that is used by the Australian Army (as well as the US Marines, amongst others). It is basically a grown-up version of Op Flashpoint and it's called VBS1 (Virtual Battle Space, if I recall), although we are now using VBS2. Both VBS1 & 2 are without a doubt the most realistic battlefield simulators around. Full stop. For squad based scenarios it about as close as any sim or game is ever going to get. Well, for now anyway. To say that we have found it quite useful before deploying to the MEAO would be a fair statement. Anyway, I'm discharging from the Army after 15 years of infantry and 11 deployments, and if this games rates then it would be just like I'd never left work. But without the flies, the IED's, the cold, the bloody heat etc. Not to mention getting to actually see my son. But if it needs time/patches then I'll wait. cheers the dog __________________

Jul 13, 2009, 05:34 PM	#13
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,183 Rep Power: 99	Re: Arma 2 I'm having trouble getting used to the controls and displays. SOme of the decisions they made are directly in the face of the standard FPS scheme, and why they did so makes very little sense to me as it feels cumbersome and unnatural, not to mention unnecessarily complex. It takes the joy out of controlling a squad. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Jul 21, 2009, 07:27 AM	#14
Ithryl DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Arma 2 The ai issues are hopefully gonna get fixed in few patches. What buggers me the most is the engine, it's just too demanding for what it offers.